Hi there, I’m having issue with the python3 installation provided by Xcode’s toolchain. I’m currently writing a LLDB plugin, using the LLDB python API, to allow the user to visualize audio data from the current debugged program in a GUI, using tkinter and matplotlib. I'm using those because I'm developing a cross-platform plugin, as I'm initially a Linux developer who wants to make this available to my fellow Apple audio devs. My issue arise at least on two setups MacOS 12.7.6 Monterey with Xcode 14.2 MacOS 14 with Xcode 15.4 (not my machine) Because I wanna support Xcode’s toolchain, I want to use Xcode’s lldb. Xcode’s lldb uses Xcode’s provided python, which I’m having issues with when loading tkinter.The issue can be reproduced like this : > xcrun python3 -c "import tkinter;tkinter._test()" macOS 12 (1207) or later required, have instead 12 (1206) ! zsh: abort xcrun python3 -c "import tkinter;tkinter._test()" On MacOS 14 the version numbers are : macOS 14 (1407) or later required, have instead 14 (1406) ! You can see it fails to load tkinter. From what I understood so far, it looks like the tkinter/tcl/tk version distributed with Xcode is not supported by MacOS ?I checked and the imported tkinter module is definitely the one provided by Xcode’s toolchain : # Checking where tkinter is installed > fd "^tkinter$" /Applications/Xcode.app /Applications/Xcode.app/Contents/Developer/Library/Frameworks/Python3.framework/Versions/3.8/lib/python3.8/tkinter/ /Applications/Xcode.app/Contents/Developer/Library/Frameworks/Python3.framework/Versions/3.9/lib/python3.9/tkinter/ /Applications/Xcode.app/Contents/Developer/Library/Frameworks/Python3.framework/Versions/3.9/lib/python3.9/site-packages/future/moves/tkinter/ # Checking that Xcode python uses the right module - it matches > xcrun python3 -c "import tkinter;print(tkinter.sys.modules['tkinter'])" <module 'tkinter' from '/Applications/Xcode.app/Contents/Developer/Library/Frameworks/Python3.framework/Versions/3.9/lib/python3.9/tkinter/__init__.py'> I can get a working tkinter working by installing it using homebrew or macports, but I’m not able to use it with Xcode’s python installation. I tried overwriting sys.path to force Xcode’s python to import homebrew’s tkinter module, but it still loads Xcode’s tkinter .so. In the crash report I can see it indeed loads tcl/tk 8.5 and loads _tkinter.cpython-39-darwin.so from Xcode. I could disable the SIP (System Integrity Protection) to force to load another version of the library, but that wouldn’t be something I can ask the users. On the LLDB forum, they advise against using another python interpreter that the one provided by the toolchain. So is there a way to get the provided tkinter/tcl/tk installation to work ? If not I’m confused about why it’s provided in the first place. Thanks a lot for your time and please tell me if you have any questions. PS: if possible i'll post the head of the crash report in the comment of this post

ld: symbol(s) not found for architecture arm64 clang++: error: linker command failed with exit code 1 (use -v to see invocation) Undefined symbol: nominal type descriptor for CoreGraphics.CGFloat Undefined symbol: type metadata for CoreGraphics.CGFloat Undefined symbol: protocol conformance descriptor for CoreGraphics.CGFloat : Swift.BinaryFloatingPoint in CoreGraphics Undefined symbol: protocol conformance descriptor for CoreGraphics.CGFloat : Swift.Encodable in CoreGraphics Undefined symbol: protocol conformance descriptor for CoreGraphics.CGFloat : Swift.FloatingPoint in CoreGraphics Undefined symbol: protocol conformance descriptor for CoreGraphics.CGFloat : Swift.Hashable in CoreGraphics Undefined symbol: protocol conformance descriptor for CoreGraphics.CGFloat : Swift.Comparable in CoreGraphics Undefined symbol: protocol conformance descriptor for CoreGraphics.CGFloat : Swift.Equatable in CoreGraphics Undefined symbol: protocol conformance descriptor for CoreGraphics.CGFloat : Swift.Decodable in CoreGraphics Undefined symbol: protocol conformance descriptor for CoreGraphics.CGFloat : Swift.SignedNumeric in CoreGraphics

Hi i am currently using XCode 15 to build a Swift command line application. But when I try to build & debug my project, it throws an error saying that it could not launch the executable. It does build but as the error suggests, the Build dir does not have a executable in it. I have messed around with DerivedData & Build location settings for quite a bit with no luck. Currently both of them are at default settings as I cleared XCode caches from ~/Library/Caches & created a new project. I tried compiling the basic Hello World but that seems to "build" but with no executable. I have attached the report for the Could not launch error Error report Am i missing something with respect to build location / configuration? Thanks for any assistance.

My question set is fairly broad, but I can't seem to find any answers anywhere. As a fairly low-level developer, the vast majority of my work is done with Sublime Text, terminal-based compilers, IDEs like Coq's (coq.inria.fr), and code that has to be compiled by terminal. These projects are at the very fabric of what I do, and I fear that Rosetta 2 will be inadequate until LLVM and other systems are updated to run natively on Apple Silicon. Honestly, I can't really afford complex virtualization systems like Parallels or VMWare (not that they help much) and I'd rather not give up MacOS for my Ubuntu desktop. I was raised on MacOS and I can't imagine losing features like scenes or seamless integration with the rest of my electronics. I want to keep my initial post fairly simple and broad, but if anyone has any questions on what I need supported, feel free to ask. I am sure I'm not alone here.